Salaf used to expel Mubtadia from their gatherings, but foolish youth of today debate Mubtadia! pic.twitter.com/3XFnLlzscN
— Masjid al Furqān (@IslamStoke) December 28, 2014
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The statement
Warn against the mistake and do not mention the name of the one who committed the mistake
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Ali Ibn Shaqeeq (rahimahullaah) said:
I heard Abdullaah Ibnul Mubaarak (rahimahullaah) saying in the midst of the people: ”Leave the narrations of Amr Bin Thaabit, for indeed he used to revile the Salaf.” [1] [End of quote]
Shaikh Rabee (may Allaah preserve him) said:
By Allaah! They (i.e. innovators) are mentioned by their characteristics and by their names if the need arises. If such and such takes up the (position) of leading and guiding the Ummah and the youth, and dragging them to falsehood, then their names are mentioned. If the need arises to mention his name, then his name is mentioned. [2] [End of quote]
Greenlane’s Admin: So here we have Imaam Ibnul Mubaarak (rahimahullaah) warning against Amr Bin Thaabit in an open gathering and mentioning his name! These are our Salaf, so where is the evidence of the one who says that it is obligatory to mention the deviated views but not the names of the deviated one. Indeed, whenever our Ulama see the need and mention names of deviants, we will transmit their verdicts.
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[1] Source: Reported by Imaam Muslim in Muqaddimah Saheeh Muslim] [Chapter: الْكَشْفِ عَنْ مَعَايِبِ رُوَاةِ الْحَدِيثِ وَنَقَلَةِ الأَخْبَارِ وَقَوْلِ الأَئِمَّةِ فِى ذَلِكَ]
[2] [source: [14/277-278] [مجموع كتب ورسائل وفتاوى الشيخ ربيع ]
Chapter:الْكَشْفِ عَنْ مَعَايِبِ رُوَاةِ الْحَدِيثِ وَنَقَلَةِ الأَخْبَارِ وَقَوْلِ الأَئِمَّةِ فِى ذَلِكَ
Imaam Maalik (rahimahullaah) said that it reached him from Al-Qaasim Bin Muhammad (rahimahullaah) who said: “I met a people (i.e. Salaf) who were not amazed by speech, rather they were amazed by actions.”
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[Quoted by Shaikh Raslaan in Fadlul Ilm. page: 597]
Ahmad Bin Abu Sulaymaan (rahimahullaah) said: I heard Sahnoon Bin Sa’eed (rahimahullaah) saying:
”The most daring of the people to issue fatwaa are the ones with the least knowledge amongst them. A man may possess a chapter of knowledge and thus thinks that all truth is contained within it.”
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Quoted by Shaikh Raslaan in Fadlul Ilm. page:546
It was said to Imaam Ahmad (rahimahullaah): What is better; to speak or remain silent? So he said: ”Remaining silent is more beloved to me, except when (I have to speak) out of necessity.”
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Quoted by Shaikh Raslaan in Fadlul Ilm. page: 543
Ash-Shabiy (rahimahullaah) was asked (about an affair of the deen), so he said: “I don’t know.” Then it was said to him, “Do you not feel shy of your statement” I don’t know” and you’re the faqeeh of the people of Basra?” So he said: “But the angels did not feel shy when they said [i.e. Allaah said that the angels said: قَالُواْ سُبۡحَـٰنَكَ لَا عِلۡمَ لَنَآ إِلَّا مَا عَلَّمۡتَنَآۖ-They (angels) said: “Glory be to You, we have no knowledge except what you have taught us. (2:32)]
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Quoted by Shaikh Raslaan in Fadlul Ilm page: 542
Imaam Maalik (rahimahullaah) was asked about a Mas’alah (an affair of the religion), so he said, “I don’t know.” Then it was said: “Indeed, it is a light and simple affair!!” So he became angry and said: “There is nothing light in knowledge, and have you not heard the statement of Allaah (The Most High): [إِنَّا سَنُلۡقِى عَلَيۡكَ قَوۡلاً۬ ثَقِيلاً-Verily, We shall send down to you a weighty Word (i.e. obligations, legal laws, etc. (73:5)] All (affairs) of knowledge are heavy, especially that which one will be questioned about on the Day of Judgement.
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[Fadlul Ilm pages: 541-542]
Ash-Shabiy (rahimahullaah) said: If a man were to travel from Sham to the furthest part of Yemen in order to listen to a wise statement, I do not consider his journey to be a waste.
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[Jaami Bayaan Al-Ilm 1/189]